http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa?disp=comments en-UK http://backend.userland.com/rss 60 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:14:15 +0000 Sale Inflatable [Visitor] c46816@http://www.maemopeople.org/ I like it.Tt is very good. http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46816 Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:20:41 +0000 Anderson C. [Visitor] c46810@http://www.maemopeople.org/ Wow! I love the feature on tracking of application installs/uninstall 'coz I sometimes having a hard time if I accidentally uninstall an application and then after that, needed it again. This tool is really perfect for my needs. Is it available for other phone as well? Aside from N900? Anyway, that was a excellent idea. Good job! http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46810 Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:58:32 +0000 Jaffa [Member] c46699@http://www.maemopeople.org/ There's a thread with further discussion on talk.maemo.org: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40265 v0.0.5 is now in Extras-devel and has fixes or workarounds for all known bugs.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=40265

v0.0.5 is now in Extras-devel and has fixes or workarounds for all known bugs.]]> http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46699 Fri, 15 Jan 2010 00:53:23 +0000 CaryRinky [Visitor] c46636@http://www.maemopeople.org/ @Jaffa: Just make us edit the catorise/menu file... ;) http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46636 Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:54:59 +0000 timsamoff [Visitor] c46626@http://www.maemopeople.org/ Cool. ;) http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46626 Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:13:18 +0000 Jaffa [Member] c46621@http://www.maemopeople.org/ Each level can scroll; if you put a lot of stuff on the top-level, it's scrollable just like every other. Of course, this'd mean creating a GUI...
Of course, this'd mean creating a GUI...]]> http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46621 Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:48:34 +0000 CaryRinky [Visitor] c46616@http://www.maemopeople.org/ I guess that there isn't room to keep it all on one screen, but it would be nice to be able to specify a few apps that would appear in the first row for direct launching (kind of like the "My Selection" folder in the previous Maemo version's app menu) http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46616 Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:36:06 +0000 Jaffa [Member] c46601@http://www.maemopeople.org/ @David, agreed - I've a number of ideas how to use Ovi's categorisation as the basis for Ovi app filing. @First Knight, which go into the wrong category? The built-in ones have specific overrides, so better suggestions (in particular, Phone and Conversations) are welcome.
@First Knight, which go into the wrong category? The built-in ones have specific overrides, so better suggestions (in particular, Phone and Conversations) are welcome.]]> http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46601 Thu, 14 Jan 2010 06:42:56 +0000 First Knight [Visitor] c46591@http://www.maemopeople.org/ Its good but I think it need to have some editting function for us to organise it better. some of the app go into the wrong category... http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46591 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:37:51 +0000 David [Visitor] c46583@http://www.maemopeople.org/ Great idea, it would be good to have say all games that are installed appearing in one directory etc. Perhaps you could use the categories on the Maemo store as an example Multimedia in Mulimedia Internet in Internet etc Would help make it nice and tidy instead of having 50 odd app icons on one huge scrollable screen lol. Keep up the good work !
Perhaps you could use the categories on the Maemo store as an example

Multimedia in Mulimedia
Internet in Internet etc

Would help make it nice and tidy instead of having 50 odd app icons on one huge scrollable screen lol.

Keep up the good work !]]> http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46583 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:27:17 +0000 thebootroo [Member] c46578@http://www.maemopeople.org/ ok http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46578 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:24:14 +0000 Jaffa [Member] c46577@http://www.maemopeople.org/ @thebootroo, I don't think that'll help - the problem is hildon-desktop noticing the file changes and rereading it. The actual task of writing the menu is pretty instantaneous. Now, I *think* the level of disruption could be reduced by having each section in its own .menu file (just like the "More..." menu is by default). http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46577 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:15:49 +0000 thebootroo [Member] c46576@http://www.maemopeople.org/ i've installed the 0.0.2 and it work fine for me, but i've a suggestion ! instead of deleting the hildon menu file during refreshing , which causes a few second with no apps at all in menu, a propose to construct file in a temporary directory (e.g. /tmp) and when the script finish, do a simple mv to the right place. doing that the refreshing will seems almost instantaneous i think ! i hope you like my idea ;...
instead of deleting the hildon menu file during refreshing , which causes a few second with no apps at all in menu, a propose to construct file in a temporary directory (e.g. /tmp) and when the script finish, do a simple mv to the right place.
doing that the refreshing will seems almost instantaneous i think !

i hope you like my idea ;...]]> http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46576 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:36:18 +0000 Jaffa [Member] c46573@http://www.maemopeople.org/ v0.0.2 is on its way to Extras-devel. Changelog: Ignore location of 'other' items when reloading cached menu. Add an 'Ovi' category pending better categorisation of Ovi-sourced items. Fix theme handling; credit also to Marcin Juszkiewicz (hrw) for the same. Fix multi-sectioned .desktop files (e.g. Web); credit also to Marcin Juszkiewicz (hrw) for the same. Upcoming work: Use .desktop file categories, if present (the community chose the package sections on Maemo to align with the desktop menu categories on purpose :-)) Try and register a DBus service to pick up theme changes. Use the localisation strings from App Manager (although wrapping is an issue in the application menu; in that it doesn't). Further Ovi categorisation work. Try to work out why some people get "More..." ordered alphabetically.

Ignore location of 'other' items when reloading cached menu.

Add an 'Ovi' category pending better categorisation of Ovi-sourced items.

Fix theme handling; credit also to Marcin Juszkiewicz (hrw) for the same.

Fix multi-sectioned .desktop files (e.g. Web); credit also to Marcin Juszkiewicz (hrw) for the same.

Upcoming work:

• Use .desktop file categories, if present (the community chose the package sections on Maemo to align with the desktop menu categories on purpose :-))
• Try and register a DBus service to pick up theme changes.
• Use the localisation strings from App Manager (although wrapping is an issue in the application menu; in that it doesn't).
• Further Ovi categorisation work.
• Try to work out why some people get "More..." ordered alphabetically.

]]> http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46573 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:36:04 +0000 demiurgus [Visitor] c46572@http://www.maemopeople.org/ Beautiful. Two imidiate suggestions: - Localization. The categories should be translated like in Application manager. We don't all speak English. For me only "More..." is translated. And I think that one should be titled "Other" like in app manager. - "More..." should always be last and not sorted alphabetically (it doesn't seem to be in your screenshot but it is for me) - Add application to bugs.maemo.org so I can write further findings there :-) thanks! Two imidiate suggestions:
- Localization. The categories should be translated like in Application manager. We don't all speak English. For me only "More..." is translated. And I think that one should be titled "Other" like in app manager.
- "More..." should always be last and not sorted alphabetically (it doesn't seem to be in your screenshot but it is for me)
- Add application to bugs.maemo.org so I can write further findings there :-)

thanks!]]> http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46572 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:28:14 +0000 Jaffa [Member] c46571@http://www.maemopeople.org/ @TheBootroo, indeed. In fact, I've just realised I don't need any extra dependencies, just a .service file (I think). http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46571 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:24:10 +0000 TheBootroo [Visitor] c46570@http://www.maemopeople.org/ for invoking catorise script on theme change, look at Dbus i think ... http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46570 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:18:21 +0000 TheBootroo [Visitor] c46569@http://www.maemopeople.org/ ok great job guys ! is the new version already on extras-devel or not ?
is the new version already on extras-devel or not ?]]> http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46569 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:58:20 +0000 Jaffa [Member] c46568@http://www.maemopeople.org/ Thanks for all the feedback. @Oscar; when we chose the package sections we did it to try and align closely with the desktop categories. So, v0.0.3 of Catorise will use them if present. How we encourage devs to use them is an interesting question, however. @hrw; thanks - I was about to upload a version which did that, and better handled Ovi apps (a starting point, anyway). I'll check your patch to see if there's anything I've missed and get that uploaded shortly. @TheBootroo; the changes that hrw & I have made will fix both issues. Suggestions on how to invoke /opt/catorise/catorise on a theme change welcome :-)
@Oscar; when we chose the package sections we did it to try and align closely with the desktop categories. So, v0.0.3 of Catorise will use them if present. How we encourage devs to use them is an interesting question, however.

@hrw; thanks - I was about to upload a version which did that, and better handled Ovi apps (a starting point, anyway). I'll check your patch to see if there's anything I've missed and get that uploaded shortly.

@TheBootroo; the changes that hrw & I have made will fix both issues.

Suggestions on how to invoke /opt/catorise/catorise on a theme change welcome :-)]]> http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46568 Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:25:46 +0000 Hrw [Visitor] c46567@http://www.maemopeople.org/ http://hrw.pastebin.ca/1749489 is version which has few fixes: - uses icons from default theme not from alpha (NSeries) one - handle desktop files with many Type=something lines (Browser for example) To get proper icons go to /usr/share/themes/ and check where "default" links and fix it it does into inproper place.
- uses icons from default theme not from alpha (NSeries) one
- handle desktop files with many Type=something lines (Browser for example)

To get proper icons go to /usr/share/themes/ and check where "default" links and fix it it does into inproper place.]]> http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2010/01/12/catorise_auto_organise_n900_applications#c46567